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fidonews.man -- 17 Dec 84 23:27:16 Page 1
Volume 1, Number 3 17 Dec 84
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Editor: Tom Jennings
Publisher: Fido #1
HOT NEWS
Oh boy ... the hot news this week is that Fido #1
dropped dead. The hard disk is in the junk pile. Any
articles that were submitted for this weeks newsletter are
lost forever. Please send them again, I'll see if I cant
hold on to them.
Fido is running on two floppies, no room for
anything. Until further notice, Fido cannot be downloaded
from #1. I have a solution though; I'm getting an ancient
old multibuss machine,three 8 inch floppies, at least 660K
each, for a total of 1.98 megs. If I can get double sided
drives, that might go up to almost 3 megs. It will take a
week or two, though.
More good news: the Sanyo 555 version of Fido is
ready. The bad news is, you can't have it! I have no space
to store it ... There will also be a "generic" version of
Fido, so that you can write your own IO drivers. It will use
INT 14, which you can trap and do things with.
Bumper stickers are going to be made tomorrow; they
should be done who knows when, because of Christmas.
Possibly before. I'm going to sell them at cost, merely to
recover my own money. They will cost about $165 for 500;
about 34 cents each. I'll mail them in onesies for a buck
each (postage .20, envelope .25, etc) or if you buy 25,
$10.00. I'll let you know when they are done.
I will also mail you a copy of the master if you
ask, so you can make them too.
fidonews.man -- 17 Dec 84 23:27:23 Page 2
NEWS
ARTICLE SUBMISSION
The format of this thing is totally ad hoc; please
make recomendations as to formats, sections needed, liked,
or hated, columns you'd like to see, or see removed,
anything at all. If you want to submit something regularly,
we can start a column for you.
You are ENCOURAGED to send things in for the
newsletter. ANYTHING is fit for the newsletter, such as a
description of your board, problems found, questions, jokes,
fixes, horror stories about wrong FidoNet numbers, things
for sale, etc etc etc.
SUBMITTING AN ARTICLE
An article should have your name, node number (if
applicable), followed by the text. Text can be any ASCII
derivative; WordStar, soft paragraphs, 8th bit set, etc are
all OK.
Articles can be uploaded at either Fido #1 or #51,
into the NEWS File Area, or by sending it by FidoNet. There
is a convention for naming the files, so that the newsletter
can be published automatically.
ARTICLE FILENAMES
file.ART For article type things
file.SAL Things for sale
file.NOT Notices
file.MSC Miscelaneous things
file.EDT an Editorial
file.NEW News items
file.WNT Wanted items
Make sure the name is unique, especially if you send
it by FidoNet, so you dont overwrite another article.
HOW THIS IS PUBLISHED
This is a totally electronic newsletter; articles
are written of course by users and sysops, but all other
parts and proceedures are machine generated.
For each newsletter, the Editor (thats me folks)
does the date and volume of the title page (tough job), and
whatever editorial there may be.
Articles are checked out for being readable (ie.
more or less English language), and bum copies (bad uploads,
etc) are deleted.
The lists generated by FidoNet Admin (St. Louis)
fidonews.man -- 17 Dec 84 23:27:29 Page 3
such as the node list, Fido list, and the route list, come
in via FidoNet during the week.
On the day the newsletter is to be published, Fido
#1 runs the text formatter (as a schedule) to produce the
newsletter, using all the articles, the node and Fido lists.
The completed newsletter is then copied into the NEWS file
area. All of the article submissions are saved as last
week's news, and deleted to make room for next weeks.
Some canned messages are copied into Fido 1's mail
area, which file attaches the newsletter to the distribution
points. This completes the FidoNews Newsletter publication.
TOM TCIMPDIS' LA BUST
The LA BBS bust is far from over. There hasn't been
any news lately, apparently because they are going through
the usual legal maneuvering, of hearings, pre-hearings, etc
etc.
However it turns out, this is an important case, and
whether you believe it or not, it will affect you directly,
even if you are not in LA and even if you are not a sysop.
Tom's guilt or innocence is only a small part of the
importance of this, and since most of us were not regular
callers to his board, it is hard to comment on it.
The underlying issue here is one of control: who is
liable for the contents of a BBS? It was related to me (by
someone who had lawyers persue it) that the status of BBS's
is quite up in the air; are they common carriers (ie. the
phone co.) or are they publishers (ie. newspapers). Phone
companies have limited liability because they provide a
medium, and not the contents, and are generally not liable.
(If you arrange a sale for a stolen bicycle by phone,
Pacific Bell is not resonsible). Publishers control their
contents, and I think are liable for even the contents of
their classified ads, though that is obviously impossible to
ensure.
You really should voice your opinion on this issue.
It will not mark you as a political radical, and the FBI
will not harrass your neighbors. It is your right, and our
right to free communications.
Losing this case will be a large step towards
regulating BBSs. Regulation will mean the death of BBSs as
we know it. We are unregulated, and are quite responsible
and take care of our own problems. The trouble makers are
far and few between.
Take the time to think about all of the systems you
have ever called and patronized, and consider how they were
run, how they were handled and how problems were solved. I
think you will find that they take quite good care of
themselves on the whole, and problems are resolved between
fidonews.man -- 17 Dec 84 23:27:36 Page 4
the users and the sysops.
If you want to help keep it this way, where you have
a very large say in what BBSs do, what they are used for,
and how they are run, please write!
The sample letter below can be used if you want.
Please send a copy to both people listed below; Lindner is
defending Tom Tcimpidis, and is a BBS user himself.
TAKE THIS OUT, FILL IT IN, AND MAIL IT!
(your address and the date
goes into this space
3 lines )
Ira Reiner -- LA City Attorney Charles E. Lindner, Atty
Suite 1800 City Hall East The Bradbury Building
20 N. Main St. Los Angeles CA 304 S. Broadway, Suite 420
90012 Los Angeles CA 90013
Dear Sir,
I would like to take this oppurtunity to speak in
behalf of computer bulletin board sytems (BBSes). Bulletin
Boards are excellent ways to meet other computer users and
hold intelligent conversations with them. Bulletin boards
are a very convenient way to get any help you might need for
your computer, from advice on a game to programming
techniques and technical information.
The idea that all of these bulletin boards are used
solely for pirating of software and illegal telephone usage
is one that is ill-conceived, stemming from the occasional
"bad seed" of BBSes. In reality, these illegal BBSes are
few and far between, and are frowned upon by the general
BBS-using public.
I urge you to consider all the good of which BBSes are
capable, and not the bad side shown by several rare and
unacceptable examples.
Thank you in advance for your consideration in this
matter.
Sincerely,
(print and sign your name here)
NOTICES
fidonews.man -- 17 Dec 84 23:27:42 Page 5
FOR SALE
WANTED
fidonews.man -- 17 Dec 84 23:27:42 Page 6
FIDOLIST --- HUMAN READABLE NODE LIST
List of Fido Based Bulletin Board Systems
Updated 23 Nov 84 by Fido 51
Please send updates,corrections or other information to:
Fido #51.
All are 24 hrs 300/1200 baud except as noted
Times listed are in the BBS's local time zone
RE == restricted, or private or by request,etc.
WE == plus Weekends
SU == plus Sunday, etc
RT == route all mail to node as specified
1 Fido's-Board San Francisco, CA Tom Jennings(415)-864-1418
2. CLP-FIDO Pikesville, MD John Madill (301)-484-2831
3. FidoSouth Atlanta, GA Lane Fowler (404)-979-5105
4. Bulldog St. Louis, MO Tony Clark (314)-441-9297
5. Batie's Backyard Corvallis, OR Alan Batie -DOWN-
6. CastleNet Corvallis, OR Lee Damon (503)-754-5244 9p - 9a SU
7. Bob_Overlock Waimea, HI Bob Overlock (808)-338-1277
8. Demon New York, NY Danny Feinsmith -DOWN-
9. GDC_Connection Middlebury, CT Jim Ryan (203)-758-8081
10. MDC/RCC St. Louis, MO Ben Baker (314)-234-1462 5p - 8a
11. PRO-TECH Cypress, CA Sanford Zelkovitz (714)-898-8634
13. Vern's_Fido San Jose, CA Vern Crawford (408)-923-5565
14. WayStar Marlboro, MA Kevin Porter (617)-481-7147
16. Mikes_Board St. Louis, MO Mike Mellinger (314)-726-3448
17. DCA_BBS St. Louis, MO Jon Wichman (314)-962-0395
18. Steve_Hedlund Van Nuys, CA Steve Hedlund -DOWN-
21. Phoenix_Sfwr Norwood, MA Bob Vandette (617)-769-0850 RE
22. PCLUG St. Louis, MO Ken Kaplan (314)-576-2743
25. Take-A-Byte Anaheim, CA Robert Collins (714)-995-2428
26. MicroFonePC Fresno, CA Bob Robesky (209)-227-2083 5p - 9a WE
27. Daves_Fido Gardner, MA David Rene (617)-632-1861
28. World Control Baltimore, MD Rob White (301)-653-2074
31. HamRadioWest Riverside, CA John Warren (714)-681-0974
32. Artesia_BBS Artesia, CA George Gilbert (213)-402-6217
33. Rod_Smallwood England Rod Smallwood 01144-635-4680
34. CrossFire Philadelphia, PA Todd Savar -DOWN-
35. ConsultNet Saratoga, CA Jim Turley (408)-867-5078 11p - 3a
36. Rainbow_Data Los Angeles, CA Don Brauns (213)-204-2996
38. Bill1000Jr Madison, WI Bill Thousand,Jr. -DOWN-
39. KarlRegier Reedley, CA Karl Reiger -DOWN-
40. RonCrain Birmingham, MI Ron Crain (313)-646-5159 11p - 6a
42. MetChem New Haven, CT John Bauer (203)-281-7287 8p - 8a
43. Seequa_Computer Odenton, MD Bob Depelteau (301)-672-3627
44. NECS Arlington, MA Dave Mitton (617)-646-3610
45. Midnight_DEC Boston, MA David Strickler (617)-353-7528 12a - 5p
46. Joes_Rainbow St. Mary, FL Joe Clayton (305)-321-2369
47. The_WorkShop Orange, CA Brian Majewski -REMOVED-
48. El_Dorado Houston, TX Paul Wells (713)-488-8771
49. NW-RBBS Portland, OR Doug Foreman (503)-233-6583
or (503)-666-8265
50. Crystal_Cavern Austin, TX Scott Ashcraft (512)-263-5805 930p - 10a
51. DECUS_CENTRAL St. Louis, MO Sysops16,17,&22(314)-432-4129
52. TOPCC Thousand Oaks, CA Gary Vedvik (805)-499-8378 4p - 8a WE
53. SE_C-Board Woodstock, GA Ken Shackelton (404)-928-1876
54. CEL_Comm_1 Seattle, WA C.E. Langenberg (206)-725-9413
56. Denver_Fido Denver, CO Oscar Barlow (303)-973-9338
57. MCCPowers Northbrook, IL Russ French (312)-480-8730
58. PiCoSystems El Toro, CA Jim Baumgartner (714)-855-3282 6p - 8a WE
59. Washco_FidoNet Beaverton, OR Vic Bachulis (503)-629-5581
60. Artichoke Houston, TX Justin Marquez (713)-870-8803 6p - 8a WE
61. RAMS Rochester, MN John Pritchard (507)-289-8452
62. Data_Jockey Bellevue, WA Darrin Smith (206)-643-0909 7p - 8a SU
63. WCE Waterford, MI Bob Leffler (313)-623-1089
64. Graf_Spee Houston, TX Jay Maynard (713)-530-2334 Irregular
65. TWACS St. Louis, MO Tony Clark(See also #4)(314)-895-6471 RE
66. Info*Net Costa Mesa, CA Richard Hart (714)-642-4408
67. DEC_Domain Lubbock, TX Alan Minchew (806)-795-0102
*69. Sailboard Highland, MI Jim Kovalski (313)-887-7429
71. Rosenburg_Express Rosenburg, TX Ken Collins(713)-342-9349
72. Harry_Chesley San Francisco, CA H. Chesley (415)-563-2491
73. Eagle-1 Ashland, MA Dave Hornbaker (617)-881-6495
74. The_Bears_Den Falls Church, VA Kurt Reisler(703)-671-0598 7a - 11p
75. ThumbTech Plano, TX Matt Legare (214)-985-7926
77. GMCC Boulder, CO Kent Leonard (303)-497-6968
78. Living_Sober San Carlos, CA Rick G. (415)-593-5583
79. DEC-WARE New York, NY Matt Kanter (212)-535-8924
80. Eldon_Ziegler Columbia, MD Eldon Ziegler (301)-992-3835 RE
81. PC-WORLD Philadelphia, PA Sal Marandola (215)-465-2278 4p - ??
82. DEC-House Cherry Hill, NJ Brian Sietz (609)-429-6630 12a - 530p
83. Harmer's_Hut Philadelphia,PA Brian Harmer (215)-565-7639 No Inc FNet
84. SCI-Fido Oakland, CA Mike Farren (415)-834-3319
85. Allens_Board Cincinnati, OH Allen Miller (513)-579-2587
86. Grummons_Fido Bethpage, NY Don Daniels (516)-575-5838
87. Deus_Ex_Machina San Diego, CA Bruce Webster(619)-286-7838
88. Wizards_Tower Teterboro, NJ Karl Schinke (201)-288-9076 5p - 8a WE
89. Boondocks Rock Island, IL Jonathan Smith (309)-794-0289 5p - 8a WE
90. MidNet Middleton, WI Mike Mansfield (608)-233-8449
91. The_DEAD_END Round Rock, TX Steve Sparks (512)-255-1282 RE
92. PCUTILboard Detroit, MI Jon Tara (313)-393-0527
99. The_REAL_Fido San Francisco,CA Tom Jennings -UNPUBLISHED- RE,RT 1
104. Baby_BYTE/Net Peterborough, NH George Bond (603)-924-9820
*108.Samson Rolling Meadows,IL Larry Miglore (312)-991-8304 5p - 8a WE
115. Arquimedes Washington,DC Sam Hegardine (202)-332-9512
124. TimeLifeBks Alexandria, VA Eldon Ziegler (703)-833-7355 RE
125.Radar's_Node Fairfax, VA Joel O'Rourke (703)-978-0351 Irregular
#130.Paul_Munson Costa_Mesa, CA Paul Munson (714)-650-6422
200.Grinnell_Fido Grinnell, IA Michael Strait (515)-236-2578 8p - 8a
201. Ham_Radio_Net Newington, CT Ed Raso (203)-665-1114
202. DEC-Line Boston, MA Bill McNeill (617)-721-1688
203. Dark_Planet Branford, CT Peter Sashka (203)-488-3440
204. Noble_House NYC, NY Jonathan Youngwood (212)-534-8557 10p - 4p
205. Alex's_DragonDom NYC, NY Alexander Morris (212)-496-7946
*206.BlueStar Edmonds, WA Craig Derouen (206)-745-5368 After 12/1
207. Northern_Reaches New Haven, CT Geoff Hickey(203)-865-1794
208. Bruce's_Fido W. Hartford, CT Bruce Lomaski (203)-236-3761
300. WeyCoFidoByter Federal Way, WA Steve Butler(206)-924-2955 5p - 8a WE
301. Beyond_War Los Angeles, CA Andrew Kanter (213)-477-5706
302. Don Quixote Rochester, MN Pat George (507)-288-8901 8p - 8a WE
303. Strictly_Sfwr Honolulu, HI Mike Oya (808)-944-0562 7p - 10a
*304. Westlake_BBS Austin, TX Albert Nurick (512)-327-7926 6p - 7a SU
305. The_Pacesetter Potomac, MD Brian Driscoll (301)-299-3228
306. Left_Cartridge Cincinnati, OH Paul Martin (513)-797-7040 RE
307. DalTex_FIDOnet Dallas, TX Chris Bradley (214)-991-7934
308. Software_PLUS Cincinnati, OH Dave Schleper (513)-621-9273 7p - 9a
309. Marc's_FIDO Portland, OR Marc Frajola -UNPUBLISHED- RE,RT 59
310. Daves_Annex Westminister, MA Dave Rene (617)-874-4325 4p - 7a WE
311. The_Lair Altamonte Springs, FL Robert Hupf (305)-830-8494 430p-8a WE
312. Cinci_Comm_Net Fairfield, OH Jeff Perrigo (513)-874-0226 9p - 7a
313. Mikes_Rainbow Garden Grove,CA Mike Hamilton(714)-537-7355
314. One_Paticular_Harbour Ft Worth,TX Cpt Utley(817)-294-7383
315. DD_Network Boston, MA Dana Long (617)-536-4670 12a - 5p
On Weekends 12a - 10a
316. Miami_1st_Fido Miami, FL Al de la Torre (305)-554-4602
317. DEC-WARE_II Iselen, NJ David Horowitz (201)-750-3748
*318.PC_WeeK Needham, MA Garry Ray (617)-449-4727
319. Tribury_Fido Waterbury, CT Phil Mongelluzzo(203)-574-2449 7p - 11p
On Weekends 10a - 10p plus FNet Nat'l Mail
#320.The_Suprise_Pak Orange, CT David Hecht (203)-795-0339
#321.CANADA_1 Willowdale, ONT Vic Kass (416)-226-9260
* INDICATES CHANGED ON THIS UPDATE
# INDICATES ADDITIONS ON THIS UPDATE
Please send updates, corrections, additions to Fido #51.